Expert: Organ Harvesting Is the CCP’s Most Feared Red Line

On October 3, 2025, Rotary International screened the award-winning documentary State Organs at the Westin Hotel in Washington, D.C. The photo shows Larry Liu (right), deputy director of the Falun Dafa Information Center, interacting with the audience after the screening. (Photo by Zhang Yi / The Dajiyuan)

[People News] Larry Liu, deputy director of the Falun Dafa Information Center, stated that organ harvesting is the CCP’s “reddest red line.”

According to The Dajiyuan reporter Zhang Yi in Washington, D.C., Liu expressed this view during the post-screening discussion at the October event organized by Rotary International featuring the award-winning documentary State Organs.

On October 3, 2025, Rotary International screened the award-winning documentary *State Organs* at the Westin Hotel in Washington, D.C. The photo shows the post-screening Q&A with experts and the audience. (Photo by Zhang Yi / The Dajiyuan)

Falun Dafa Information Center: The CCP’s Reddest Red Line

Larry Liu said during his remarks, “At the 2019 China Tribunal in London, one witness testimony (PDF) was particularly crucial. That witness was former New York Times Beijing correspondent Didi Kirsten Tatlow. She speaks fluent Chinese, reported from Beijing for many years, and wrote articles about organ transplantation.”

Tatlow’s testimony recounted a 2016 conversation she overheard among several Chinese surgeons.

Liu said, “Because her Chinese is excellent, they didn’t realize she could understand them. From what she heard, she concluded that in China’s medical circles, this was an ‘open secret’—they all knew that the organs came from prisoners of conscience (not merely death-row inmates, but including Falun Gong practitioners). Clearly, the doctors themselves were unaware that the government had only a year earlier announced it would supposedly ‘stop using organs from executed prisoners.’ As you can see in the documentary, the Chinese doctors had no idea about that.”

Tatlow summarized three analytical conclusions from what she heard:

1. The use of organs from prisoners of conscience for transplantation truly exists (Tatlow noted that the CCP had officially admitted to using organs from executed prisoners).

2. Among certain Chinese medical specialists, this fact is widely known.

3. The December 2014 ban on using organs from executed prisoners may be ineffective—or even entirely false.

Liu continued, “She [Tatlow] felt she had a strong lead and wanted to pursue the story further, but The New York Times editors rejected it, saying: ‘The Chinese government already announced it stopped using organs from executed prisoners—there’s no story to write.’ So she couldn’t continue the investigation and instead submitted her findings as testimony to the London China Tribunal.”

Liu added that many mainstream media outlets have not reported on the CCP’s forced organ harvesting because it is the CCP’s most sensitive red line.

He said, “What I want to point out is that there’s a serious problem with mainstream media coverage. Some outlets have reported on it, but the biggest ones still haven’t followed up.

“Why? Because they need to keep their journalist visas for China. They need to maintain their market access and keep their Beijing bureaus.

“They know perfectly well this is the reddest red line. They can report on human rights or social issues, but they absolutely cannot touch organ harvesting. If they cross that line, they’ll lose everything in China.”

DAFOH Europe Deputy Director: China’s Organ Supply Is Inconceivably Abundant

On October 3, 2025, Rotary International screened the award-winning documentary State Organs at the Westin Hotel in Washington, D.C. The photo shows Dr. Andreas Weber (right), deputy director of the European division of Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting (DAFOH), interacting with the audience. (Photo by Zhang Yi / The Dajiyuan)

Dr. Andreas Weber, deputy director of DAFOH Europe and a German physician, shared his own clinical experiences showing how extraordinarily abundant organ supplies are in China.

He said, “I knew a German patient who was an alcoholic. Alcoholics are ineligible for organ transplant waiting lists. So she went to China to buy a liver donor. Her blood type was extremely rare—AB—but even so, she got a perfect organ within six months. That’s unimaginable. She paid $400,000. Because she was an alcoholic, one liver wasn’t enough, so she went to China three times and bought three livers, each costing $400,000.”

Compared with the rest of the world, the waiting time for transplant organs in China is astoundingly short.

Chinese hospital websites have shown that at the Oriental Organ Transplant Center (Tianjin First Central Hospital), the average waiting time for patients was two weeks; at Shanghai Changzheng Hospital, liver transplant patients waited only one week on average; at Shenyang China Medical University First Hospital, liver transplant waiting times ranged from one month to at most two months; and kidney transplants took as little as one week, rarely exceeding one month.

For example, on August 27, 2004, mainland film star Fu Biao was diagnosed with liver cancer. On September 2—just six days later—he received a liver transplant at Beijing Armed Police General Hospital. In April 2005, his cancer recurred, and he underwent a second liver transplant at Tianjin’s Oriental Organ Transplant Center on April 28—only about a week after the recurrence.

Meanwhile, the United States has a vast national organ donation system and an advanced donor network. According to the official U.S. organ donor website (www.organdonor.gov), the average waiting time for a liver donor in the U.S. is two years.

CCP’s Organ Harvesting Industry Worth an Estimated $9 Billion Annually

On October 3, 2025, Rotary International screened the award-winning documentary State Organs at the Westin Hotel in Washington, D.C. The photo shows Jan Jekielek, senior editor of the English-language Dajiyuan, interacting with the audience. (Photo by Zhang Yi / The Dajiyuan)

Jan Jekielek told the audience that, according to human rights lawyer David Matas, the forced organ harvesting industry in China generates about $9 billion per year. “I did some math,” he said, “and each transplant operation costs between $50,000 and $300,000.”

International human rights lawyer David Matas has long investigated the CCP’s organ harvesting crimes. In 2006, Matas and former Canadian Secretary of State for Asia-Pacific David Kilgour (deceased) released Report Into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China in Ottawa, confirming the credibility of these allegations.

Matas stated that the CCP’s organ harvesting practice is “an evil never before seen on this planet.”

On May 19, 2016, after ten years of investigation, the organization World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) published a 210,000-word comprehensive report concluding:

1. The live organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners was a state-organized crime ordered by Jiang Zemin.

2. The initial main source of living organ donors was suspected to be millions of illegally detained petitioning Falun Gong practitioners.

3. Six categories of evidence reveal the existence of a vast pool of living organ donors in China.

4. The CCP’s organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners has not stopped but rather increased, with two major waves of mass transplants. The claim that organs since 2015 come only from donations is a lie.

5. Extensive data analysis shows that large numbers of Falun Gong practitioners have been killed for their organs.

On June 22, 2016, a new investigative report, Bloody Harvest / The Slaughter: An Update, was officially released in Washington, D.C.

The report’s three co-authors—David Kilgour (deceased), American investigative journalist Ethan Gutmann, and Canadian human rights lawyer David Matas—concluded that over the past 15 years, an estimated 1.5 million organ transplants were performed in mainland China, with the primary source of organs being Falun Gong practitioners.
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